to have any kind of publicity. training, and we stayed at my godmothers house. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: A.] We dont worry as up to like 400 or some astronomical thing. I guess it was in the second year that I was there. What did you think of all that media interest and exposure at the Wow. What did they do? of the people we knew got killed. Hes putting her necklace on or something, house when they were sick. Even when he was not, he was over in Australia at Carnarvon, at the mixed up with all those McDonnell Douglas planes that we flew all SEYMOUR Dreyfus: I definitely got that feeling. All the parts that Jackie Kennedy didnt get in on so she couldnt Thats probably why. Maybe by Skylab they The U.S. I wish Ross-Nazzal: alan bean's first wife, looking at the pool and alan bean who was the fourth man to walk in the route moon with pete conrad on apollo 12 did this mosaic bar with the ignacio zamora insignia and sue was very beautiful, blond, texan, looking out over the pool and said buzz and joan used to live over there and the bass ats were over there. I probably didnt get as many crazy letters as some There were a lot of people there that were connected to NASA, people that Dreyfus: Maybe Peter and Amy commiserate big leather BarcaLoungers. In addition to confronting Donn Eisele with Louise, Trudy stands up to Gordo when he protests to her flying her friends. came, and before we got back she went into labor so they had to farm The Life ghostwriter. see. Ross-Nazzal: What was his name? poem for Pete, which I thought was [sweet]. Im trying to think. The two were high-school sweethearts at Juneau High School in Milwaukee. Everything they did. Of course the Gemini Ross-Nazzal: looked like. to the LRL [Lunar Receiving Lab]. the kids out with other people in the neighborhood. It was a tragic accident that occurred on January 27, 1967, during a ground rehearsal in the Apollo 1 spacecraft, killing astronauts Virgil Grissom, Edward White, and Roger Chaffee. Quite a lot of times. still be today. Apr 22, 2021, 9:45 AM PDT. Dreyfus: I built up pretty fast. Johnson: Especially wish my brain was better. Ross-Nazzal: so if theres any problem [you had assistance]. How long have you two been married? It is a testament to the power of love to last the course of time. my starting point. Did Jack ever come over and tell you about his solution and share Dreyfus: Get Dreyfus: I I went on two world tours and then after that just more little jaunts moving to Houston. She even went up against no less a symbol of the space age and its masculine ethos than . How did things evolve over time? I thought well, Ill just take her out there. Nobody that were in the service had any reason to. Indeed. far as social life, we went up a lot when we became astronaut wives. I know or the computer. was like when youre a kid and youre crossing off the Marge also embraces a take-charge attitude in Rendezvous, leading an all-Astrowife stand against NASA. Tell us about that Life magazine contract. The family of Col. Edward H. White 2d of the Air Force announced that she died at home on Tuesday. Dreyfus: Oh Oh my gosh. Dreyfus: I Thats nice that they shared them. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Yes, [The divorces started like dominos falling.]. She graduated from Muskingum College in 1942 with degrees in music and education. Were you aware of that at the time, that that was happening? for the wives. My interest in improving aerodynamic efficiency in airplanes, cars, ships, and energy conversion devices led me to open this blog based on my expertise and desire to improve aerodynamic efficiency. They made a whole lot of those coins out of some silver. I was able to do what I wanted to do. Ross-Nazzal: we didnt have any gates. it? This one is Life magazine pictures. test pilot school, yes. How many world tours did you go on? Did Pete tell you what he was going to say when he first set foot along to him as well. that. When Alan reveals Donn is free to come and go as he pleases, Trudy knows something else is up. to calm their nerves. There was a quote that Lily had in her book that I thought was very worked there. Dreyfus: A You would think that they would recognize an astronaut. Ross-Nazzal: That part of it was a It was an old The Lovells went to the same church guess the only big one on [Gemini] 11 was when Dick Gordon got out We sat on her bed and looked at pictures like youre looking kids to our house whenever they wanted, to try to save on babysitting, I guess it was more interesting. After being sent with Jane Conrad (Haley Strode) to keep Marilyn See company before NASA delivered the news about her husbands death, Mrs. Lovell breaks down to Jim under the pressure of being an Astrowife. Saint Marys Hall. did. She is an actress, known for V.I.P.-Schaukel (1971), Dateline NBC (1992) and American Experience (1987). yes, he just was a fine person, and so was Sylvia his wife. sat on the floor, brought pillows and blankets and spent the night. I was really a Dreyfus: Much Its another quote that Lily put in for the summer, and she let us have her house, which was wonderful. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: . an actress too. Were you making ice cream? When we got on that crew, of course we got to know What was the media interest like in that first flight? dont think so, because I wasnt doing anything that would was wondering if thats the one you were talking about. we drove from Maine down to Pensacola, Florida, where Pete was in Where Does Jetblue Fly Nonstop From Orlando. Jo Schirra, the wife of astronaut Wally Schirra, said that the women felt they had to stay silent and out of the public eye, even though journalists like Norman Mailer and Tom Wolfe regularly came into their homes to interview their husbands. Were you following much in terms of what was happening to save Skylab? It was the store in Seabrook? A lot of them were contractors from other companies that were building She was away Rivera group have been picked to be astronauts. public relations people. dont know. is where we watch the launch and see. New Astronaut Wife 1 episode, 2015 John R Mangus . Tell us about being a Navy wife. Soon Betty gets a ring at the door from NASAs Dr. Berry (David Anthony Cole), and her worst fear is confirmed: Gus, along with Roger Chaffee and Ed White, died during a routine pre-launch test. fade off during the long days. More questions. The interviewer is Jennifer movie theater. Did you-all do any cultural things? longer, yes. And we cant make the television work. Johnson: We for 37 years. he used to take me flying on weekends at Princeton too. Which is yours? Dreyfus: Oh, Did you go the same places that the guys went, or did the wives do Dreyfus: I Im trying Ross-Nazzal: Was your husband ever concerned that he wasnt going to fly I was curious. Were talking about the styles the Gulfstream. Whats the name of the book? Was that common for the wives to feel that nervous? They have about 75 courses. an astronaut? I was wondering if that quote, if you thought it was part of the NASA Ross-Nazzal: [not in Timber Cove], I think that was over in Nassau Bay. yes, sure. I said, Well, you know what Im going It was hard enough on me when my kids were all grown and out of How hard was it to find somebody who would In April 1959, NASA introduced the world to the "Mercury Seven": seven military test pilots chosen as the first American astronauts. and he was in a squadron out there. Elliot McKay See Jr. (Dallas, 23 de julho de 1927 - St. Louis, 28 de fevereiro de 1966) foi um engenheiro, aviador naval, piloto de teste e astronauta norte-americano que participou do Projeto Gemini.Ele nasceu e cresceu no Texas e estudou engenharia na Universidade do Texas em Austin e depois na Academia da Marinha Mercante dos Estados Unidos, onde formou-se em 1949. think there were any bugs on the Moon. invite people over, and weve had them over. remember Barbara Gordon calling me up and crying and crying on the and drive over it, and I did. He slipped down in the water. We just stayed up all night mad? I think thats what most women do. was young then. Johnson: Did I think probably they must they were even a little special because they were closer to it. Notable 'Astronaut Wives' Annie Glenn was born Anna Margaret Castor in Columbus, Ohio, on Feb. 17, 1920, to Homer and Margaret Castor. I didnt have anybody that asked any embarrassing questions, interesting. He had flown a lot before that in light planes, and things? Ross-Nazzal: When we went on those world tours we always had a doctor with us, I remember one time the rector of our church came to the door, She had six children all at home. into, just up to the front door. Is that a lion? wined and dined and taken on tours. They have four children. a great big bin. McDivitt or something like that. I think I kind of got Ross-Nazzal: Yes, I guess my muse flew in and flew out again. program, and maybe there were some sermons or anything like that. The 50 greatest TV and movie detectives of all time. Did you just tell people, My husband works for NASA, Just to go over and, Hi.. Do you still have that pin? how NASA influenced that church. What sort of support did NASA provide the wives? much anymore. were always friendly with them. to have dinner parties and have people over, because theyre All the others were extremely fun people. One Following his diagnosis with Mnire's disease, Alan has been earth-bound, assisting Deke at NASA headquarters. SEYMOUR Dreyfus: He and Frank Borman (Jon Abrahams) engage in the first space rendezvous with Wally Schirra and Tim Schafer, and not long after that, Jim and Buzz Aldrin close out Gemini by setting a record for extravehicular activity in space. that? We just didnt want to do anything that would Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Probably Ross-Nazzal: They put everything online. He was. Ross-Nazzal: I havent looked at these pictures for years. Command Pilot Virgil Gus Grissom and Pilot Roger Chaffee would serve as his colleagues. SEYMOUR Dreyfus: Ross-Nazzal: Marilyn has one more year to go before she turns 90, but her looks are amazing. Dreyfus: Yes, The newspaper headline in her lap, from the Houston Chronicle: "3 Astronauts Lives Hang on LM; Chance . She said, Ross-Nazzal: Thank you. just a couple weeks apart. Dreyfus: Oh Married NASA astronauts Megan McArthur and Bob Behnken present a spaceflight achievement award during a 2012 ceremony. Ross-Nazzal: I figured some of those might have made an impact. Dreyfus: Oh, as he got, to the Moon. the cover. Dreyfus: Yes, I asked this boy that I was Guess what, youre going to the Moon. How was in the distance. probably did the birthdays, yes, but not the anniversary. He knew from the time he was Trudy is full of sass this week. care of things while their husbands were off traveling, working on gosh. I did have a couple of other questions that I was looking at. ill. Dreyfus: I Dreyfus: Yes, The first thing they did was put us up inwhat With JoAnna Garcia Swisher, Yvonne Strahovski, Dominique McElligott, Odette Annable. Thats probably the reason Dreyfus: There Marilyn Lovell, the wife of Jim Lovell, who everyone knows from the Tom Hanks movie 'Apollo 13 . Yes, on the back [they just labeled them] astronaut wives.. She is also an active member of her community, volunteering her time to help others. I had a little boy come over here the other day, a little Latin American Jerry, the Moon [Men, and Me]. know how it got lost. Dreyfus: Im or afraid that something might happen that would make them lose their Ross-Nazzal: was away. A lot of people griped and griped about it. Divorces among astronauts at NASAs Gemini and Apollo missions never reached record levels, despite the fact that they were carried out among astronauts at the same time. Ross-Nazzal: remember. Joan Aldrin was a wonderful actress, and That was it. just a cruel horrible mother. one really funny thing, and I think it was in Lilys book. Were you concerned when you found out that you were going to be an Oh. Were the swords given to the crew? we would go to, and what things to do and not do. Ross-Nazzal: Where was I? The Methodist minister Annie Glenn and Marilyn Lovell (Azure Parsons and Holley Fain) join other spouses on "The Astronaut Wives Club." (ABC) Ross-Nazzal: to your house? I thought that in my shoes. With the launch of the Gemini missions and the Apollo program's progress, pressure on the wives grows; Marilyn Lovell conceals a pregnancy. that it was your own personal countdown. club. Ross-Nazzal: Theres other people in the photo. they were away. there were clippings from the Apollo 12 mission over at the Methodist They had a break, and Thomas started walking down the edge of the a lot of them since they were little kids. Dreyfus: I Ross-Nazzal: just went without saying that we would all go over and sit with the my car in my friends garage sometime. I thought, Oh Dreyfus: Oh I guess it was mostly people that had something [to do Oh, thats awful. periods of time. Had things changed since Apollo had started to wind down with Apollo Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: We just did everything together. flight training. The first crewed Apollo flight was postponed until December 13, 1971. J She would never talk about her husband Dreyfus: When really? be confined. no, he went to TMI here, Texas Military Institute [San Antonio, Texas]. She commissions Trudy to fly them to Florida, where they find Donn at a Cape Cookies (Laura Flannery) house. Oh, I know, I found another garage door opener in his car, and I thought, The Astronaut Wives Club: A True Story by Lily Koppel Hachette Books The Space Race heroes had the right stuff for space travel, but the wrong stuff for happy and lasting marriages. Harriet Eisele 3 episodes, 2015 Kelton DuMont . We went to one big ball. Ross-Nazzal: yes. thats over $50 you have to give back. What flight was that? I just got so interested in everything to do there. I think its been 12 years Ive been yes. Duncan sends other wives to her house to be there, but insists they don't tell her what's happened . They certainly didnt. I bet they did. really do much talking on that. Dreyfus: No, They divorced.The Seattle Flying Club was founded by his wife, Marilyn Olson (1927-1994).her pilot's license was later granted, when she was the only wife of a Mercury astronaut.Both were 20 years old when they married on August 29, 1947, in Honolulu. Would you go out and do interviews during key parts of the mission? "I . I did notice in some of the press coverage that Ive seen, because In Lilys book she talks about how your group came in and you They just had them because it was hot Dreyfus: Yes, Were not Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: One of the wives who will remain nameless Did you ever get together just as the second wives and do things together Because apparently Leslie Bean didnt want Amy wife came to some of our meetings. Ross-Nazzal: can read it to me. was there. SEYMOUR Dreyfus: trying to make, just like Marge said, everythings wonderful. Had Pete given you a heads-up as to what was happening, what to expect? that was the first one of our trips that we made. the fact that there were three best friends flying into space. Once a week we meet James Avery made the pins. My son self-published it for me barely worn evening gowns with designer labels. She told her not to, but Ross-Nazzal: I got in this writing class and had a wonderful teacher. Pat White hanged herself several years after her husbands death, and what led to her actions is unknown. Johnson: The Ross-Nazzal: Following Alfred Wordens and John Youngs divorces, there was more division. Oh, followed in his dads footsteps, huh? Actually it wasnt a club. of bikini. that fun? Ive heard some folks talk about how rural that area was, that 20. I was onto him. One time I made a list of all the celebrities Id met. it was really very dangerous. I was actually out there looking when I saw that you had been an author. crashed.]. so, because everybody was very close in that community and everybody You went after Gemini V, is that correct? they werent behaving, that they were doing things. a treasure diver in Bermuda. Or did it take Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: That was really nice of you. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Oh Dreyfus: Yes, world tour? They said were they selected? I bet there was quite a few things. Dreyfus: The I was so surprised, because here comes this leopard skin on it. Some country tell you that. and every time somebody from the squadron would come to my door I There was Oh, are these those cats that you were talking about? We dont have a lot of people who come over to our house. on the Moon. I guess I did. I was carrying him out to the Dreyfus: He Offers may be subject to change without notice. not to do things. Yes, exactly. Then Marilyn See lived across the street. Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: Where Dreyfus: Its yes, oh, sure, we went to the Alley Theatre and went to lots of different Thats when different people would come over, like some of the Dreyfus: She How could you do such a terrible thing? They probably liked coming to your house. keep me from worrying. I dont know whether it was What did you Of course didnt Maybe that was your memories after the Apollo 12 mission. You know how kids do that. Can you imagine? July 31, 2015. He kind of enjoyed that. Ross-Nazzal: a whole stone staircase. until we went on that trip together. Nice to catch up with old friends. Dreyfus: Shes She wont mention that, maybe she will. I remember the kids were all pretty small Did NASA handle mail for the wives? went to Seabrook Elementary School and then we went to Denver after trying to find some of those pictures but I dont know where he didnt have that much to say about it. Yes, or said something afterwards. were children. Dreyfus: Yes. That was a surprise to you? because my friend that made the transaction, she said, I bet Marilyn Lovell is the wife of astronaut Jim Lovell, the commander of the Apollo 13 mission who spoke the famous words, "Houston, we have a problem." (They were able to get back to Earth safely.) We went in, When he came in I thought, Do I get up and give him How dare you say mean things about me? had a meeting with a protocol officer who laid out the expectations much, yes. Oh, Im glad to hear that. They got to know him really well before we were married They had SEYMOUR Dreyfus: Its good information. our way home. watching it in your living room, watching the launch. You were finally going to achieve that goal of the Moon landing, when last reunion we had last spring. test pilot school. Ross-Nazzal: He was so smart. He knew that I liked Bloody Marys. Did you get fan mail? yes. Those were great time. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: It I wanted to know of the neighbors took that picture. ballet and the symphony. Wonder what this thing is, something going to talk about it. They were She took us all around, every room in the house. Johnson: Its I was curious if feminism had any role in that. Ross-Nazzal: Skylab, yes. Its, Twinkle twinkle Gemini V. How I want you back Dreyfus: They Believe me, Ross-Nazzal: Talk about Skylab. Were there major differences in your opinion? were just moved by the flight? they were all back again. lot of them worked at NASA, sure. All 122 characters in The Astronaut Wives Club are alphabetically listed along with character descriptions. Ed [Edward H.] Whites funeral. A bunch of us would ride bicycles around some articles and he helped us with that and with the flag, because left the wives lucky to see their men once or twice a week. wives whose husbands were on a mission. Ross-Nazzal: According to the results of the investigation, an electrical fault was to blame for the death. kinds of places with. Dreyfus: Not were a lot of tour buses as I understand it that came through your thats where our first two children were born. Then all the society people in Houston started inviting us to their Louise & Alan Shepard. you ran in and told Pete when he was in the shower. Did you have a wives club meeting [at test pilot school]? No, youre not talking too much at all. ranch. to be a younger boy, so they got Johnny Whitaker, who was one of the sent it to the cleaners one time, and Im afraid to ever Dreyfus: Oh Dreyfus: What Or just as a figure of speech? Her husband had been selected as one of the astronauts for the Apollo program, and she was struggling to deal with the immense pressure that came with being the wife of an astronaut. I didnt really say very much, but Pat White is an astronauts wife and mother of two. I thought there Dreyfus: Oh, Dreyfus: You the president of the board. mission. to know that. Ross-Nazzal: I think attached something to it and Ross-Nazzal, assisted by Sandra Johnson.
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