Crime Junkie SERIAL KILLER: L.I.S.K. She said that she was at Jones Beach. They were places like time, There's no way to pin down any one person who made that call Oliver. Commissioner, at the time Richard Dormer thought this was one, single serial killer and Shannon might not even be involved at all, while the district, Terney said that they thought it was two killers and didn't say what he thought happened to Shannon so that to be. in the New Hampshire area, but it doesn't appear as if she had actually booked anything there's this activity on her computer of her looking up, stuff. You suffer from hypothermia. In fact, some people even said that he was the same west makes a bone collector that we talked about an episode for, yeah, but I mean they're totally different cases. To view this and other transcripts, as well as support the generation of new transcripts, please subscribe. When police trace. Billy is stationed in Fort, Oklahoma at this point, and despite the hour he does answer and they talk and he tries to calm her down. They got a state police helicopter bloodhounds. It was a whirl one week and there's literally no way we can repay these two shows. For a full list of sources, please visit https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/infamous-what-serial-didnt-tell-you/. For a full list of sources, please visit https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/missing-bryce-laspisa/ This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Hae's body was later found in Leakin Park. all to be young shorts, who were named Megan Maureen and Amber. They didn't. I think it's part him being older and part, multi memory when something crazy, like this happens, it's not unusual for people stories to change a little bit plus, If he didn't let her in, I can see him regretting that decision and trying to tell the story in a way that makes him, he'll better later on yeah I get that ok, but even more reason why? There are a couple of one offs, but I have consumed, all the six part tv series, all the forty part, podcast series books and hundreds of pages Blog, So there is a lot of information out there, but for people new to the case, none of, to listen to your demands and give you what you've been asking for, but I, want to tell it to you in the way that the case unfolded for me when I first found out about it, and I think it's because of the, in which I learned the information that may. But he wants to be part of the story, so he, call Shannon's mom just to be in the middle of this crazy thing that was going on, even though, he had no interaction with her ok. next weekend and actually make the purchas zero. To tell you the rest of his story, because China is an important but small piece of what's to come so this. Almost a dozen young girls were kidnapped and murdered, many of the killers still unknown to this day. But if the dogs are right, I think you can only mean one thing: there were no tracks going into the woods from her car, no one saw her walking when they look for her that night driving back into town and the cop who came travel from the direction more was actually heading in and he didn't see her walking that way. Those of you who have been loyal listeners know that she adopted a baby a few months ago, which, for anyone who is. Our best guess at this point is that more out got back on the road and started driving north according to her phone records. There is a strange, I need to tell you about that happened. No one can explain this action. Sources for this episode cannot be listed here due to character limitations. We have not been lying when we say this podcast takes so much work and right now, Britt needs to focus her time and energy into her family, I'm not sure when she'll be back, but you guys will still see her modding, our facebook group and in our newsletter, so she's not going away completely. was there the whole time. So some people look at this as a sign that she was thinking. Ok, sure right so much. I don't know if it's there's so much stuff, I don't know, what's real and what's not and when I, You guys are right. She went to see that night, but I. have to move off of all of them. She won't leave she's, saying everyone trying to kill her Joe checks out. This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. They never had sex and he never gave her money. So maybe she wanted to just get away, The weekend, even though the timing was weird that same, afternoon after she makes these calls, she sends an email to her boyfriend bill. It's may third, two thousand and two. For a full list of sources, please visit https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/serial-killer-lisk/ . They couldn't link all of the girls to one guy through their phone records. **** and was trying to take steps towards changing this trend. They hit, wall when the weather becomes too bad and they beastly have to hit pause for the winter. I got this idea. He tells them that they are all have, party at Joe's house. We can see a, box of wine and there appeared to be something pink dumped in the snow. No one was, ever dispatched a beach for that call and to make matters worse, no one even put together that the girl calling for, was the same girl that these other callers were calling about. system with strangulation, and they think Dr Hackett is responsible for that. Instead she runs past frantically and, to a neighbour's house where she's banging on the front door repeatedly yelling for help an older man who lives at the homely Gus comes to the door because he was already up shaving and he's understandably startled by this. roughly online and leaving out the middlemen and her. Instead of oak beach there, right near each other, but far enough away to clearly throw off the dispatchers, and that's the level, time Shannon is seen or heard from now. This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Listen, I love you. When, police can get back out into the marsh and keep searching, and on March, twenty nine of two thousand and eleven police find a skull, hands and. She got a little upset. see him like going after the trophy Keller, but I, I wonder if there could be more sets of four out there. He gets a very strange message while he's going through security at the airport, he hasn't missed, call and when he listens to the voicemail, he hears a strange, whimpering noise for a long time. So I appreciate all of you who are helping to support my show by telling, friends to listen by sharing our episodes on your social media pages, leaving the show, five star reviews and joining our patrion for extra content. It so, This is the first time he's ever met or talked with me, and he swears up and down he's, never made a call to her wait what he said he, recalled her right. He pulled a gun on her. Ninth at one thousand two hundred and fifty five. Officials believe he hunted and killed people all across the US and abroad from as early as 1997 - 2012. Learn more about your ad choices. happen to run into her while she was running trying to get away from Joe. Crime Junkie. That would have upset more so profoundly. That's found is linked to a set of legs that wash, upon the beach and long island way back in nineteen. Ashley flowers and I'm Brett, and I want to say a quick welcome. Who Shannon was last seen with the nation missing they vetted him, but couldn't leave him to any of the girls they go back to Michael Shannon's driver, but again nothing on him and he's cleared as well. A lot is Neil fall. and even though they used Craigslist Craigslist. Profile. They entered into the system and it matched the rape and murder of two women who are strangled and pose, but the brother wasn't a total match the match popped as being a partial and meaning that it someone related to the sky and sure enough when they too, He lived just a few miles from where the torsos we're discover and in an even stranger turn of events, his daughter group to be the best friend of Melissa and if you remember, she's, one of the global beach for whose sister was-, All those times and police always wondered how the killer knew so much about Melissa and her sister, oh my god that could totally explain it right right, but, we haven't actually called him a suspect. Oh my god. Comfortable with him and let their guards down, because a couple of the girls left to go meet this John without a purse. This is called a 'subject access request'. Sarah Koenig told us all about the story of 18-year-old high school senior Hae Min Lee who disappeared on January 13th, 1999. Were there any solid suspects besides the residents of oak beach that were cleared well along with Dr Hackett and Joe that guy that Shannon went to see that night, the names that come up as, suspects the most are James Bassett and John Mitchell. How would he have known who Shannon was praying? There's a couple of people to, one specific family. Will the bodies in Atlantic City were found in two thousand and six than the first list: Google, beach victim, went missing in two thousand and seven. Yes, but I'm junkie, life rule number, seven in case you ever thought about it. bid on that same road. A few days after Shannon's remains were found, but it, and police haven't said, if he's thereby either way it could be both the right, This could be the trophy killer and John, the torso killer, who true, whether any other names linked to this, only other name really gets thrown out. They weren't able to actually get the car that weekend they were kind of just, it out in the plan was for her dad Fred to come back down. girl's name when they find her torso, they figure out. But Madison Green is the perfect middle ground. Shannon. But it's the only thing, it makes sense. The remains wrapped in burlap. He has told police a couple of different stories over the years. Lizzie Borden took an ax Gave her mother 40 whacks When she saw what she had done She gave her father 41 But did she really? It's been covered a zillion times, but I can't tell you how many messages I got that said. Did she sound normal? We do know, though, that she spent some time looking at rental prop. She doesn't get in Michael's Suv. Looking on the land, of the remains is the bones and jewellery of a woman who ends up being linked by dna to that, Maybe that was found all the way on the other side of the island and this, in school. In fact he says they just been getting in the way of the investigation and the more Fred points the finger at the pool. God everyone was saying that he was listed, but the truth is that he's probably not list, never went to the girl's homes. the man Urville Jane DOE and the baby dough. For a full list of sources, please visit https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/murdered-matthew-daniel-islan/ Mary says he called and says he treated Shannon Doktor hack. He doesn't tell Michael that he is seen er and just said that he's called the cops and Michael's response is. He can maybe even dry by an. WANTED: Monsters of Ohio Part 1. Imagine that you're sitting in a boat on the Atlantic Ocean- and you are facing the land, your facing long island, there's a skinny long strip of land in front of you and on this land has three beaches. So I think I agree with what the police are saying, so we, What about her? actually ones like pianist territory and call dibs as the index. And they find out. This call from Ugo Beach, where her body was later found, get wind of these calls and they publish this, which makes him stop calling immediately and police lose the, connection they had to their killer once this happens, the case kind of stalled out for a bit until the spring. Sources for this episode cannot be listed here due to character limitations. I can't find a really good, comprehensive episode on this. What's it, discovered that they are the remains of another young escort names, Melissa who went missing in July, two thousand and nine and, like you'll, keep finding with this case. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices, In 2017 the FBI released a chilling recorded phone call that may be the only clue as to what happened to Margaret Ellen Fox back in 1974. It does something that, to this day, no one can explain she emailed her professors and tells them that there's been a death in the family, and she's likely going to be out for the next week. her and dumped, or in his marsh, if it doesn't make any sense for it to work. I was wrong and something that I said and I'm, going to admit when I am wrong, I've made a couple of mentions in past episodes about my upset, shin with the Maura Murray case, but I said I wouldn't cover it because it's been. I can go back and traced pings on the cell phones. and she responds really strangely, like almost she snaps out of it for a second and she asked him not to go wait so one second he's killing her the next second she's like no don't. One hundred and sixty. She didn't make it up. He had made up stories in his personal and professional life that cause, a great deal of embarrassment for coworkers, so it was just something he was known for he's that guy who's gonna stick his nose in and pretend he was there or pretend he was involved, and maybe he had nothing to do with something. Shannon fit the profile of the global peach killer like to a t, but she, a driver all of the other girls, were lured away and, hey believing this is just an accident that lead to something so much bigger. To access these records you will either need to visit us, pay for research () or, where you can identify a specific record reference, order a copy ().. Court records. when they're able to get into the vehicle it said that there was a coke bottle in there that smelled like alcohol. But Gus is, at the main, deeper police to show up, and, six, a dot m when it starts getting light outside Michael decides to leave, he's not going to stick around for when the cops come at six hundred and ten, a dot m, a full forty, five minutes after Gus called the police they finally arrived and meet him at that front gate. He promises to call her back, As we note she goes to bed the next morning. Applying for a free transcript. Only he can visit and that are all his the tor. the call. you speak in years like someone who hasn't had a baby, that's between one and three years old. They should just call them murder, motels its catchy and its accurate murder, roads and heard her motor. They even refer back to Fred's own comments, when she initially went missing that maybe she went up there to run away or to hurt herself. At that time he was in West Virginia and he went to the home of a sex workers and Heather and wall there. I really feel like it was her trying to contact me trying to help, but again, for a long time that just kind of loomed- and we had no answers after Fred- arrives in New Hampshire. It gets even weirder a couple of, these later police find three more sets of remains all skeletons. Guy who's, Doktor Rockets, well remember that house on Anchor way that last called nine hundred and eleven yes. Then they finally go back to Doktor Hackett, but again cleared no connection so with the locals ruled, out and they're out of the way, the next step, that the police take it take a deep dive into each of these girls. Her drive. There has to be this big cover up conspiracy with everyone. Now it's important to note here that when Butch talk to the reporters, he said that more up to be shook up, but she didn't seem at all in toxic, but because of the wine or maybe because abandon crashes. shut up a sledge hammer, bleak elastic trash, bad bulletproof faz, and clean white saxon underwear, I don't know if anyone's marketed it like this, but I'm pretty sure that's a serial killer, starter pack exactly, exactly. Vulgar things to her asking her she's a whore like her persist, you're an he shares a lot of personal information about Melissa, about Amanda that here, Have known, but he always keeps his call short less than ninety seconds. This is what we know for sure. She first ran to the middle of the road. Oh, my god, like this. At this point we just know there seems to be some kind of accident and her car ends up in the opposite lane facing oncoming, I thank more crashed right in front of the home of a woman named faith, westman faith, medical, call to nine hundred and eleven at seven hundred and twenty seven to report the accident in her call logs, which have been released, but redacted faith tells police that there's been an accident, she is at, if anyone is hurt- and she says she doesn't know- because she hasn't actually gone out to investigate the next couple of sentences from the call are redacted just, when, after a local man named Butch, Atwood comes driving by in a bus he. But a lot of people, though, think that it had to have been someone in law enforcement, or at least someone familiar with law enforcement policies because of how he knew to make the calls to the victim's family and not get caught and how he could hide his ip address stuff like that, but nothing solid. I t to know how to do this. killers? That was closed, toiletries even her school books, which I don't know about you, but if I was going to harm myself or even run away, the last thing in the world I would be worrying about would be bringing my books with me. Nothing unusual happens, nothing out of the ordinary and after they eat more drops off Fred at his hotel and then lets her borrow his car to go to a party Maura attends this party with two of her friends, Kate, who was at dinner and her? So, is found an oak beach closest to the unidentified child, but for, Found lying face up and she isn't found wrapped in anything or dismembered like any of the other victims, one slash four mile from where she was found. They did a dna tests and they have no relation. The dogs were brought out about eleven days after more of vanish, but they were able to track her scent the track it from the crash site to about a hundred feet up the road and then her sent just disappears. But there was a mother and her daughter, and even the asian male who everyone assumes was across dresser and then was killed because he was in the kind of victim the killer wanted, so they all have the same profession but they're all living in a world that unfortunately makes them easy targets. family, here that there wasn't actually a man strength. His brother got arrested and they took his brothers DNA. Who did they know who were their clients and was there anything that stuck out, but it was hard for them to find anything. Her younger sister Amanda gets this call on her phone and the collar idea. Sarah Koenig told us all about the story of 18-year-old high school senior Hae Min Lee who disappeared on January 13th, 1999. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices, This very special episode for Pride Month tells the stories of three people joined together not just by the desire to live peaceful happy lives as their authentic selves, but also because they faced a similar indignity in how our legal system allowed injustice in their cases. She takes off and it exactly five. It had called run so they try and make her report, but they get bounced back in. just said that she was screaming saying someone was trying the killer in two thousand and fifteen. The truth is truly too many. These body parts that they just found are matched to a torso. And I cmt's are walking around the car. High crime, junkies, Ashley flowers Here- and I have some news- it's just going to be me for awhile brick is taking a sabbatical from the podcast. She turned back and hid under the boat, does a slow drive by in calls out to Gus asking he's seen a young girl. I don't know this is all part of the mystery, so finally, Michael just has enough, and he leaves and goes to wait in his suv outside. You shouldn't have done that which sounds pretty ominous yeah, but I'm sure he just meant because Shannon wasn't escort and he was accomplish with her technically and wouldn't want the, they're right, but a little weird, because we all know Shannon already called nine one one. He made the call, while he was in New Jersey near Marries home what yeah, This has never been fully sorted out. Police disagreed and downplayed their concerns and all the while, more men vanished into thin air. She was going to have a great job. There are two very different patterns here. It's not just the, accident that make police think she wanted to run away? The e sound victims and the Gilbo girls were different, but each set. They were just push. Now whatever this means. Going through more as call records and contacting those people that more called in the last days before she went missing. So then, why go through it? Then, he saw Michael's Suv coming down the street. It was concluded by most, that Shannon's death likely had nothing to do with the other murders, and it was just one of the most bizarre coincidence- is that legit, discovering of a serial killer I'd be interested in knowing what Shannon's family thinks of all of this. was the last one of the guilder beach forward to be fattened. Maura would stay away this long and put them through all of this, without letting them know that she was ok and so begins a rift between the family and the police. calls fit the same pattern except for the last one, the last. First, two dozen ten. though, on one hand, what are the odds that all of these women in the exact same prefer, end up dead at the exact same places right the. things. So I have to wonder if there are other areas where for girls, That was a lot of stories. She is seen and talked to by locals but in a 7-minute window, when everyone seems to look away, Maura vanishes. She loved the stories from being up there and she just happened to have this, It's not a sign of something she was going to do after weeks of searching nothing substantial is recovered, nothing that has a link to Mora and nothing that would indicate she was, still alive or still in the area after mom. You don't need to call the police now Butch didn't push her butt. Ten, all one word: that's called crime junkie, ten at Madison, Shred, dot, com, the Suffe County Police Department. Flowers told Deadline she hosted a crime segment on a local radio station before starting the podcast. You deserve gorgeous professional hair color delivered right to your door, starting at twenty. So it's not a beach. 1619 (New York Times) initially called the line was busy, so the dispatcher actually calls him back at seven hundred and forty three, he reported that there was an accident involving a single, could see, but the airbags were deployed, heavy damage at seven hundred and forty six, the first response, officers. That's about to come was that she. and back when everyone was still thinking. More continue. so long and chances we're so slim that, even if she was there, he was gonna pick up anything. Well, he would call her not once but a few times, and this actually have, and before the murder investigation. As a result, the transcription time indexes may be inaccurate. Getting very strange. For a full list of sources, please visit https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/missing-maura-murray-part-1/ , Learn more about your ad choices. The trophy killer is quiet, he's, elfish he's not flashy killing is for him and him alone. it's one of those where the more you learn the more questions you have- and I am talking about. Sarah Koenig told us all about the story of 18 year old high school senior Hae Min Lee who disappeared on January 13, 1999. turkey is an audio chuck production, so anything check, https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/serial-killer-lisk/. But, Hi Lloyd, can also indicate strangulation, which is why she and her family didn't agree with the coroner's findings when in two thousand and twelve her death is ruled accidental, they tested the exterior of her remains for drugs and they didn't find any and they, Use these findings to say that she wasn't on drugs that night, but they could have tested her bone marrow to really make a definitive proclamation, and they they didn't do that at all. To all of our new listeners? She she keeps screaming that trying trying to kill me and this, was made at exactly four fifty one and at this point she's, with police. should be noted that police believe all the girls knew this guy somehow enough. The screen goes dark for a second. Ok, the only thing missing from her body was her highway bone, which is very small and can be carried away easily by animals or even than lost in that marsh. Addition to this, who ever labour meeting also was able to hide their ip address, so they couldn't track them through this, and this is a clue, Please all point to later. where the calls were coming from. fourth, between Long island where she went missing and New Jersey where she lived, but the report ends at staying with New Jersey and because its with New Jersey, this is one more reason that they never connect. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices. You need to come, get her out of my house, oh later, tells the star ledger that he had questioned whether or not she was really a woman or maybe if she was transgender and that, he wanted her to leave, and he said he made a trip to the bath, and when he came out she was acting a radically just freaking out and he swore that, two and a half hours that she was in there. And both of them are so far to the right that they're, almost on oak beach, and just something to know, even though manner bill, Jane, DOE and baby do we're place close together. Well, they never believed that it was an accident. I can see both sides. So, this rest between police, Fred, saying something sinister happened. Support for this podcast comes from pico. This is just about seven minutes after Bush talk to her at the crash site. Almost a dozen young girls were kidnapped and murdered, many of the killers still unknown to this day. Best by an amateur profile, name Peter who said we have two distinct signatures. The early two thousands most p, We have some understanding now of how to hide in ip address it, be they got a vp in, but, Ever was doing. When policed, asked Shannon for her location when she was on the phone with them. This is about an hour and fifteen minutes away from where she was so it's a big hike, but the pay was real. Long come to regret. Things got out of control and she's running from him and he's trying to find her. Right, like I'm sure, Gus was like okay. they get confused the investigation and the public its frightening to see people who are supposed to be catching this guy, not even agreeing on how many guys are supposed to be catching, and it doesn't give you a lot of faith in the system. With our thirty day, free trial of audible just go to audible, trial com, crime, gently I've listened to the book twice Reddit one. That amateurs, ologist that I talked about earlier Peter in, Documentary? We're all young in their early twenties in all very put. she was just some girl screaming through the neighborhood at that point, and how would he have gotten her mom's phone number? There didn't appear to be, tracks in the snow leading into the woods off of the street, so there had to have been some kind of assumption that she had had it in the direction she was first travel. To learn more check out these podcasts: Code Switch (NPR) but for some reason again, maybe because they assume she didn't want to be found that night. I told you Neil falls. After all, her friends had been looking for her, so, first, some of her friends even thought like. And they would work tirelessly to make sure she paid the price. After gradually, She turned a couple of jobs being a hostess. Absolutely not. As a result, the transcription time indexes may be inaccurate. They think, maybe she got bounced around a lot to a lot of different people like oh you're, not my jurisdiction, you're, someone else's, and so it's, right and it's just bad. We was really just doing this as a training exercise for his dog, so we, both our week after week well into December, and he focuses, on the areas close to Ocean Parkway, because he has read some, that when a body is dumped its most likely going to be within thirty feet of the road, so he and blue search and they search, and I have to set the scene for you a little here when I heard beach. And driving and she doesn't want to be found. We don't know a lot about what happened to Maura after that, but what, we do know, is that by seven hundred and thirty it was dark and it was very cold on, early February, ninth and likely even slip, Now. Ending her life in the mountains, but her dad keeps saying, It was just one of her favorite books, she loved being up there. No one except a single detective and his dog who while looking, stumble upon the burial ground of a serial killer or killers? Accuracy is not guaranteed. Sources for this episode cannot be listed here due to character limitations. Some of them are still Jane, Doze or John Doze. Sources for this episode cannot be listed here due to character limitations. Crime Junkie INFAMOUS: Darlie Routier (Part 1) 2019-09-09 In 1996 a small Texas community was rocked by the tragic slaying of two young boys. The police are saying: no. In February of two thousand, For more Murray was twenty one years old and attending the University of Massachusetts. Ok, she picks up the phone. that lingers over the entire investigation police. Crime Junkie: MURDERED: Sharmini Anandavel on Apple Podcasts 41 min PLAY MURDERED: Sharmini Anandavel Crime Junkie True Crime When 15-year-old Sharmini Anandeval doesn't come home from her first day at a new job, her family is immediately suspicious of one of their neighbors. There is a new kid on the block everyone's talking about and he's. Police and was on the phone with them describing the incident was Shannon now Gus says when Shannon first ran out of his home. very upset, and you know he says he told her going to be okay, but he also said he was mad to like any dad would be. The room is in shadow. So shortly after this Shannon gets picked up and gets another call from a guy named Joe who lives on Oak beach in long Island. I mean, I think these cases, the Atlantic City and the global before feel very, very similar to similar to not be connected, and it took a lot for the Gogo Beach for to be found.