Fits 30" - 46" waist. The cylinders are pricey, it cost as much as the gun, but I have gotten over the price and enjoy the heck out of shooting and reloading 45s. The 1858 Remmy is my favorite gun. One of the most heavily used revolvers of the Civil War, with about 106,000 purchased by the U.S. Government, Remington's New Model Army, now commonly referred to as the 1858 Army, was the stiffest competitor to Colt's 1860 Army model. I lowered my ball size from .454 to 451 (pietta) and dropped my charge from 30 to 20 grains. Silliness aside, I had little to no interest in black powder until I was at the range next to an older fellow firing rounds through an old muzzle loader rifle. Description. Selleck also used a Winchester 1876, and there are various Winny models all over town. Dont ever get law and logic mixed up; they have nothing in common. Keep both of these straight, and the possibility that someone (like me, maybe) just might make a mistake, so on your own, do some research on it , At first we never know which is which , but it doesnt take long to figure it out. STAINLESS STEEL FRAME. The ruggedness of the solid frame and the ability to quickly change cylinders made the Remington Army a favorite of officers and infantry alike during the Civil War. Water is definitely the very best way to get rid of Black Powder fouling. Youve done a real service to fellow shooters there. You should have. It definitely seems that the makers will do as much quality control as is expected by the importer. with only two hands, juggle the fresh loaded cylnder onto the Arbor Pin, replace the barrel, and drive home the wedge, (Bearing in mind that ones horse might be objecting quite strenuously to all the Booms, Bangs, cracks, and the whine of Shells going past hie ears!. Youll love it! If paying by credit card, store policy is to ship to the billing address of the card. One can shoot all day on a pittance. Fingers on triggers, especially that Civil War vet. All smokeless powder and paper free. It was late at night and I could hear my dog fighting with something. converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination Ive been pretty satisfied with Clean Shot sub, and it smokes a lot less and produces significantly less fouling. Will not fit .31 or .36 caliber cylinders. It required something Long and thin, preferably with a hook at its end, to fish the Mashed and Mangled remains of the cap, out of the Innards of the gun, before Battle could once more be joined! Fine. Actually, percussion caps come in slightly different sizes, as do nipples. About 150 ft-lbs Energy Code 433ST. Bought both of mine mail order from Cabelas. No rust on my guns! For more information and to see quantity in stock, click the "More Info" button. By the way; it is a pretty decent movie in the class with Quiggley Down Under.almost. Our. Well its interesting still. Nice sight picture. Thank God I did not shoot my dog that had to have 62 stitches. Not to put too fine a point on an excellent review but the Preacher killed Marshal Stockburn at the end. Not that it cant be done. :D What are those little balls for? This is the "Civil War" style Conversion Cylinder Assembly, it will convert your 1858 Remington Pietta to .45 LC. If you load it with 30 grains, you get about 200 ft-lbs energy. I went out of my tent and I could barely see but there was a big ass bear looking at me about 20 feet away. This conversion cylinder will allow you to convert your 1858 Remington Pietta .44 cal. They are cheaper to buy, but the first time you put any Hot Loads through one, the Soft Brass Frame will stretch, and youll just have a thing that LOOKS like a gun, but all you can do with it is hang it on the Living Room Wall!!!! The .44 Remmington is a very strong gun. My dad of course saw them when they were new. Fine review with everything that makes a gun review great: guns, history and guns. If you do this you dont need a wad. ). First load powder, then press ball. The 1858 is the modern name for the Remington New Model Army/Navy revolvers, which were introduced circa 1863. I often find them employed at LGS and they are a good resource. It is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship and great fun to shoot. There is some variability between brands of caps as well as manufacture of nipples. Everything you ever wanted to know about the 1858 Remington (and some things you didnt!). In a way, you could say it was two guns in one! WARNING: Black powder firearms cannot be shipped to Canada or New Jersey, See Footnotes for the following locations: *New York City; Bronx, Kings, Nassau, New York, Queens, and Richmond; **Illinois - ***Michigan. One good smack on the percussion caps, and BOOM! An iron-sight Hawken at whatever range you can stay on a sheet of typing paper EVERY SHOT offhand is hunting. A great design of a pistol. Thank God I had my Reminton. Actually percussion caps come in different sizes. Though the guns be identical, the first is free of any legal imcumberance, while the second has an FFL holder and a waiting period to deal with. He then shoots it. var theDate=new Date() Mmmmmmlightly-grilled, corn-fed Bambis mother backstrap.mmmmmmm. This is the "Pale Rider" style Conversion Cylinder Assembly, it will convert your 1858 Remington Pietta to .45 LC. This is because we strive to keep our firearms prices as low as possible for our customers. Being a Cavalryman Ive always loved the 1858s, 1860s and 1873s. It is 13.5" in length weighs about 2.75 lbs. See "More Info" to follow a link to Cylinder Pouches. Yup means I cant sell a converted C&B without using an FFL. My First Colt Style Gun, and my Last Colt style gun! The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. A nice write-up and while it may be legal to take deer with the load described I would note that said load has less power than the 44-40 out of a m-92 carbine, a close range proposition to be sure. The Pietta 1858 Remington Revolver was one of the most popular side arms of the Civil War and was the last of the Remington percussion revolvers to be manufactured. The manufacture of firearms by Remington goes back to 1816 when Eliphalet Reniington produced his first guns in Ilion, New York. Sale prices reflect a 3% cash/money order discount. . Is that what i just shot down with my 5 1/2 inch 1858? LaHood was put down by the miner the Preacher had been helping using a buffalo gun at about 5 yards. Revolver (.454 Dia. Big thump, big cloud, and I could see the huge rounds hitting the berm when I was spotting through binoculars. Im 66 years old and I have been wanting to get a 1858black powder for a while now but because I live in Illinois I cant get no one to order me one . I ended up giving it to an NRA black powder teacher to use for show and tell, (to show his class how to ruin a beautiful piece by not properly cleaning before long term storage). percussion revolver to a five shot .45 LC cartridge shooting firearm. If you want to make a guy worth killing, this should do it. Now, if only I could get my wife to come with me and reload.oh well. Always like the Remington over the Colt design ever since seeing Lorne Greenes on Bonanza as a kid. The conversion cylinder is indeed just a part, and can be bought anywhere any time any place. 1858 Remington Stainless Steel Army .44 8" Price: $455.00 Rated: .44 CALIBER STAINLESS STEEL FRAME 8" BARREL TEMPORARILY OUT OF STOCK! It's in good shape overall and comes as you see here and no longer has its box. I taught my neighbors son (after he turned 18) how to shoot black powder with my 1858 and he fell in love with the revolver, so I gave him a new one for college graduation. One of the strongest and most sought after revolvers. 21478. I know we are here because our forefathers were able to bring down food with primitive firearms. Our governor says that they can melt when shot I have a few black powder guns I have hunted with them for years and have yet seen one melt down .But the Local store here wont order one for you. 3 per pack. And thats part of the beauty of cap-and-ball revolvers; you can vary the powder charge any time you wantlight loads for plinking, and heavy loads for whatever. (They are still remarkably cheap in both .25 and 32-20, but good luck if you lose the magazine.) I did know enough about black powder to use soap and water and clean until the bubbles showed white with no discoloration, but I screwed up and did not fully disassemble the cylinder and firing mechanism and after three months in storage (before and after a move) it was a rusty mess. The difference is due to the less definitive . They tell me that they inspect every gun they get and wont sell anything they dont think is high quality, and I believe it. My dad bought one of these (pretty sure its the same thing) with an 8 barrel. 44 Caliber - .454 Dia. See " More Info". Improves performance & Accuracy. Before one can change a cylinder on the Colt Design, the pistol has to be field stripped, and just imagine yourself as a United States Cavalryman, trying to hold his excited horse under control, as he strips the Colt Type revolver down into thee parts, then somehow, (It helps to be ambidextrous & double Jointed!) Fordyce Beals knew what he was doing. Designed to compliment our Civil War holsters. Pietta, Steel Frame Revolver, 5.5" Oct. Barrel, Black Powder, Oklahoma Leather Belt, Black Leather Holster Belt, Oklahoma Leather Belt, Brown Leather Holster Belt. TEMPORARILY OUT OF STOCK! I havent shot black powder in a long time. The .44 ball over 35 grains is enough to kill a horse. Great writeup of a gun that has been on my list for a while. Not only is that the right way to hunt, deer that go down fast and clean taste better. Remington M1858 New Model Army and Navy Remington Beals Navy Remington M1865-67 Rolling Block Pistol Remington M1871 Rolling Block Pistol Remington .41 Double Derringer Remington M1875 Frontier Remington .36 DA Revolver Parts For Original Longarms Civil War Rifles and Carbines Sharps and Hankins Carbine Burnside Carbine Joslyn Carbine Dear Mr. Nickel, And they still shoot just as straight and true as the originals. While the patent date of this gun was in 1858, actual production didnt start till after 1861 or so, I think 62. Designed to be the future of long range revolvers, it's top strap and full steel frame design made this revolver one of the strongest and most sought after available. I weighs a ton, has a 9 inch barrel and is damn accurate. thereof. We recently got our reader-responsive electronic monitoring and drone surveillance program up and running. Comes 18 to a pack. It doesn't make sense to make a \""repro\"" revolver in stainless like the \""stainless Buffalo\"" or stainless 1858if I really wanted a non-realistic cap and baller . 1412 West Reelfoot Avenue Serial number- D81019. I was watching them in the 80s and was able to watch all of the Clint Eastwoood movies multiple times. It ensures that every round fires the same without pushing the ball too deep into the cylinder. . I am sure it will do for deer. Fits Pietta 1851, 1858,1860, & 1873. There was no penetration, but the deer died where I hit it. . Remington 1858 New Model, .36 Navy and .44 Army; Parts For Reproduction Longarms. Price: $45.00. See "More Info" for details. Once a year I strip them right down to the last screw, wipe the mixture of oil and black powder residue off them,(Never found any rust!) My Colt 2nd generation 1851 Navy will equal that sometimes, more commonly putting its six balls into a 2-inch circle. The greatest going away gift I ever got in my 25 years in the Army was the Uberti 1873 with my name and callsign engraved on the barrel that the guys in my battalion gave me when I left command. Snapped back so hard the hammer tore a chunk of meat from my thumb. It is a black powder revolver with a 12-inch barrel. I might be wrong about this! The Stainless Steel Bison that just came today is going to me my favorite! None other than William Buffalo Bill Cody wrote of his old 1858 Remington, It never failed me. If you had a few briefcases full of C-notes sitting around last summer, you could have bid on Buffalo Bills 1858 Remington, along with his hand-written note extolling the virtues of Beals revolver. It blew LaHood through a windowyumm. But on my wish-they-would-make list a 5-shot .50 Old Army designed for sabot bullets and 50-grain Pydrodex pellets. Traditions Revolver Cylinder Loading Stand, Revolver Round Ball - .44 Cal. 1 3/4" wide. But the website is easy to track sale prices through the year. Java, from Plymouth MA. After the first range trip, i tore it down to the last screw and cleaned/oiled the whole thing and still wound up with some rust on it when I put it back together the next day. Great article and comments, Oh, and dont use your telephone to order them, either. Very nice article on the 1858 Remington. The type of man who could sell Deep Freezers and electric Fans to Eskimos! It can eat load of 40 grains all day. Today, we know Old Number 21478 as the Remington 1858 . Shoots .44 Caliber round ball and can be converted to .45ACP and/or .45LC. Bullshit!!! Have fun. ", Colt cap-and-ball revolvers usually dont [have] safety notches.. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. My Command Sergeant Major made me promise to shoot it and not just keep it in my safe. He carried a nickel plated 8 Remington 1858 and a peacemaker. As for the black powder, read the manual, page 10 in mine. Despite my kill, in my opinion, its not strong enough but fun as a backup which is why I used it. Dixie Austrian Lorenz. The nature of the weapon makes no difference; one is just as deadly, and in the same way as the other. Thatd be 24 shots of fairly rapid fire, not shabby even by todays standards. Compact solid brass, holds Ten #10 or #11 percussion caps. 1899. The other was a blued adjustable-sight Old Army that was just sheer round-ball hilarious to shoot. I had Milt Morrison of Qualite Pistol and Revolver start with a pair of 1858 Remingtons, one in .44 and the other a .36 cap and ball, and shorten the barrels to 51/2.
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